Moses Joe , Hello. It is always nice to meet thinking people. Welcome.
LoisLane
i was raised as a jehovahs witness.
currently i still am part of a congregation, which i gather is also the case for many who come here.
i no longer consider them god's chosen people.
Moses Joe , Hello. It is always nice to meet thinking people. Welcome.
LoisLane
yesterday i drove to mcdonalds and noticed that the nearby kingdom hall had the new blue jw.org logo.. the rebranding has started here in holland.. g.. .
@Gorbatchov
LL
things ex-jw's need to know in order to heal and move on.. ***.
1.you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. look at how you are feeling most of the time.
that sense of going nowhere and feeling down is not because you aren't spritual enough.
some day far in the future, will we be looked upon as suffragettes who abolished cults with tenacity, courage and outspokenness?.
will future generations shudder at the backwardness of cultures that permitted cults to flourish, and not comprehend how this could have happened?.
will they be grateful for being spared death and suffering at the hands of cults because of what we are doing to expose them and reduce their growth?.
Anne Marbury Hutchinson, baptized 1591, in Alford, Lincolnshire, England, married and with children, came to the New World in 1634, as a Puritan spiritual adviser, to fight for greater religious freedom.
She accomplished a lot, before being killed by the local Indians in 1643 at her farm in Pelham Bay, New York.
For her gallantry, and her firm stand on challenging the authority of religious ministers and also not believing women had to be subservient to their husbands, but be partners instead, in 1922, a statue of herself and her daughter, Susannah, was erected in her honor, on the state grounds, in Boston, Massachusetts. There is a plaque that reads, she was a "Courageous Exponet of Civil Liberty and Religious Toleration".
Partly, because of Anne's standing up for what was right, her descendants and all of America, live in religious freedom, to choose which religion one wants to participate in, or not.
It took Anne, 279 years to be recognized with a statue for her outspokenness in regards to religious freedom.
Jehovah's Witnesses, JW.org, are such little peanuts. When their door knocking and rolly carts disappear, most people will just heave a sigh of relief. Most of the world just wants them to go away.
I wish there was some thought to the walking wounded. This site, JWN, Barbara Anderson and SilentLambs , plus many others, are trying to get the word out.
I can not offer a statue or any recognition to any who woke up before me, and I don't know how leaving JW.org will get anyone into the history books. But when I post, I hope I can reach someone's heart and help them realize, JW.org is just a man made up business.
LL
PS I hope, in the future, America, the Land of Freedom, will tweek a law, that says, yes, you can have a religious organization, but the people of the United States of America, will have the freedom, to walk away from it, WITHOUT ANY REPERCUSSIONS.
LoisLane and 3 gold stars
some day far in the future, will we be looked upon as suffragettes who abolished cults with tenacity, courage and outspokenness?.
will future generations shudder at the backwardness of cultures that permitted cults to flourish, and not comprehend how this could have happened?.
will they be grateful for being spared death and suffering at the hands of cults because of what we are doing to expose them and reduce their growth?.
The ONLY reason JW's think they are the best religion is because their abusive 'mother' JW.org TELLS them that.
"Mother", JW.org, controls and restricts by abuse.
In the real world, people walk around dog poo , and forget about it the same instant.
I would like to think, somewhere in time, those who oppose and get out of JW.org will be touted as the courageous and strong minded ones.
That I am out and free and old friends are still caught up and inside is so sad.
LL
Label Licker. In your 3rd paragraph above. Lisa Rose commented on it.
Jealousy and envy. It doesn't make sense to you and you don't get it, because you are good, with good motives.
Why would the sub circuit overseer need to lie? What was in it for him? Someone was going to hand him 2 tickets for a vacation in the Caribbean? It wouldn't be the first time.
I knew a bro who would give the circuit overseer his credit card for the week. Yes, this bro had a lot of money. lol But in time, he was found out and charged for using inferior products and not up to code construction. I guess not everyone was out for a green hand shake. lol
LL
yesturday, i was talking to a friend and she said that in order to get a degree from a local college, they require a completed a public speaking course.
i said that was no problem, because i had been in a public speaking school for 40 years.
she looked at me like i had three heads.
@Dagney. What an excellent comment. lol
LL
We had one MSO with a Masters degree. lol He liked to council like he was a Professor and tearing apart all talks was constructive criticism. lol He didn't last too long. Everybody complained. lol
hi guys, i don't really post on here much anymore, having been on here since 2001. this site helped me out in the early days and has been a great support system for all of my past jw issues.
like many others i was discouraged from an education so that i could window clean and pioneer in my youth during the 80's.
having spent many years post my jw exit in alcoholism and periods of drugs, i decided to clean myself up 7 years ago by attending aa, i was still a window cleaner ... at the time i wrote extensively on here about my issues.
What an achievement! Good for you! and three (3) Gold Stars
LL
this might be my last post.
i've had quite a few things on my mind over the past few years, mainly my belief in god.
i've tried to move on from the jw past but that's really being foolish.
Between flip flop doctrines and an abusive ex, I thought LoisLane was losing her marbles. lol
After a divorce, and therapy, I am happy to say my marbles are just fine. and
Anyone involved in WT/JW.org has been abused and needs help. There is no shame or embarrassment in that.
We all want you to succeed. Post like you are doing tonight and tell us what is on your mind and what is happening to you. Okay???
You need time to metamorphose into the beautiful butterfly, all of us, are. Let us help.
LL